So What Were the LSSAH Tigers Doing?

Of course, the Battle of Prokhorovka is famous for the hundred German Tiger tanks that were destroyed by the Fifth Guards Tank Army. In the Fifth Guards Tank Army report of 30 September 1943, they claimed to have killed 53 Tigers from 12-24 July. Somehow, this story grew to 70 Tigers killed on the tank fields of Prokhorovka (Rotmistrov, 1960) and I gather in some accounts it was rounded up to the nearest hundred. It became the standard Soviet story, and the figures 70 and or 100 Tiger tanks killed being repeated in many post-war accounts, including Rotmistrov’s. It was an absurd claim that oddly enough was picked up without critical analysis by many western historians and repeated. Yet the German unit records were readily available, but apparently no one thought of checking them. Literally dozens of books and articles were written over three decades with these false claims in them. The situation was so appalling that I ended up adding an appendix to my Kursk book called “A History of the Histories” that discusses how these obviously absurdly incorrect legends showed up in books by established historians like Goeffrey Jukes, Martin Caidin, John Erickson, and Glantz and House (When Titans Clashed, 1995).

In 1993, Trevor Dupuy warned me that the Battle of Prokhorovka did not go as the legend says it did. Even though his book Great Battles on the Eastern Front (1982) picked up the swirling tank battle story, they (Dupuy and Martell) were careful not to state any armor loss figures (“Both sides suffered heavy losses…”, page 79). So, the week before my first meeting in Moscow I ran over to the archives and pulled up the SS Panzer Corps unit records for the 11th, 12th and 13th of July. This basically took a half-day and from those records alone, the story was clear. Apparently for the last three decades none of the dozens of western historians writing about Prokhorovka had taken the time to do that.

We then flew to Moscow to meet with Col. Sverdlov and our Russian research team. Col. Fyodor Sverdlov was a war veteran who fought with an infantry battalion in the Battle of Moscow in 1941 and was a staff officer through most of the rest of the war. He was wounded three times. After the war he had written eight or more books (plus ghost-wrote some books for higher ups), became a PhD and was a professor at Frunze Military Academy. Col. Sverdlov started our conference in October 1993 by saying something like: “I was at Prokhorovka right after the war, and I didn’t see a hundred Tigers.”

This was the before I mentioned the SS unit records I came armed with. I was prepared for an extended and painful discussion on the subject, but it was clear from the start that Sverdlov, having served, did not believe the Communist propaganda (unlike so many of the western historians had). This would be a subject revisited multiple times in many other discussions. I found him opened minded and fairly unbiased. He was also very critical of the Soviet Army and the way that they operated. He was independent and analytical, and not overly nationalistic.

So, LSSAH had 4 Tigers operational on the 12th of July (most sources agree on this). According to Frieser, page 126, they did not start the day on the front line (which is not unusual). The company of four Tigers arrived during the battle and deployed on the division’s left wing. After that…..I don’t know what they did. This would have probably put them opposite to the XVIII Tank Corps. There are reports that in Andreyevka, the 181st Tank Brigade met a large column of German tanks (Kursk, page 932, Prokhorovka page 318). Andreyevka is marked on the map above (from page 317 of Prokhorovka).

Now, we do not know whose tanks are those that were in that “large column.” It could have been the tanks from one of the two panzer battalions of Totenkopf (Pz IIIs and IVs), or it could have been the Totenkopf SS Assault Gun Battalion (StuG IIIs), or the Totenkopf SS Self-propelled Antitank Company (Marders), or the unaccounted for extra panzer battalion or panzer company that LSSAH appears to have had (Pz IVs), or the LSSAH Assault Gun Battalion, or the LSSAH Self-propelled Antitank Company, or some combination of this above. Clearly, four Tigers by themselves don’t account for a “large column.”

In the thirty-third paragraph of Ben Wheatley’s article (starting with “On the other side of the ditch…”), he also has the four Tigers coming up and deploying on the division’s left wing. He then has an extended discussion of the Tiger’s operations starting at paragraph thirty-nine (“At the same time as Hill 252.2…”). He has them engaged in a major dual with the 170th Tank Brigade and then the 181st Tank Brigade. It almost appears from his account that these 4 Tigers single-handedly fought and halted breakthroughs by these two Soviet tank brigades. This seems a little much.

One source given is Frieser, page 127, which does quote Georg Loetsch, one of the four Tiger tank commanders. He states “In the morning, the company was on the left wing of II Armoured Battalion when about 50 enemy tanks, from the cover of copses and hedges, came storming towards us in a broad wedge formation…” He then claims to have shot two T-34s. It appears to be a big step from this quote to single handedly having four Tigers stop two attacking tank brigades. If he shot 2, and if the other 3 Tigers did as well, then this is only 8 tanks. Who shot the rest?

Now, I did not include the Loetzsch account in my books. Perhaps I should have.

But, there clearly were other German forces in the area. The XVIII Tank Corps records are a little confused and spotty on this action, but there are a few lines that stand out:

From: Combat Report #37, 1400, July 12, 1943:

The enemy is putting up stubborn resistance and is falling back in the pt, 217.9-Komsomolets Sovkhoz direction. Enemy artillery is firing intensively on our troops from the Greznoye area.

Our neighbor on the left [XXIX Tank Corps] is fighting for Komsomolets Sovkhoz.

The XVIII Tank Corps reached the following lines:

110th TBde: 500 meters east of Mikhalovka

181st TBde: occupied Oktyabrskii Sovkhoz and is fighting along the line Andreyevka-ht. 241.6

170th TBde: fighting along the line of the ravine southeast of Mikhalovka.

 

From: Combat Report #38, 0330, July 13, 1943

In attempting to reach the Belgorod highway, XVIII Tank Corps unexpectedly ran into the enemy’s well-organized resistance, which featured buried tanks and assault guns along the line ht. 217.9-ht. 241.6

From: Account of 18th TC’s Combat Activities, July 12-24 1943:

Time of attack is 0830 on July 12…At 0830 the corps’ units attacked (just mentioned because Ben Wheatley appears to use a different time in his account).

The terrain in the corps’ attack zone is cut by three deep ravines….which is the 181st and 170th Tank Brigades, advancing in the first echelon, were forced to attack on the corps’ left flank near the enemy strong point at Oktyabrskii Sovkhoz. 170th TBde, attacking on the left flank, by 1200 had lost 60% of its equipment.

Despite these losses, overcoming the enemy’s fire resistance, the corps’ units took the Oktyabrskii Sovkhoz and by 1200 were fighting along the line: 181st TBde-Andreyevka-ht. 241.6; 170th TBde-the ravine southeast of Mikhailovka; 32nd MotRBde was fighting for Andreyevka.

The corps’ units, continuing to carry out their mission, by the end of the day had reached the line 200m east of the Bogoroditskoye church-southern outskirts of Vasilyevka-Andreyevka-two windmills at Preslestnoye-further along the northern slopes of the ravine southeast of Andreyevka-the Oktyabrskii Sovkhoz.

By the end of the day the enemy attempts a frontal tank attack from the Kozlovka-Greznoye area, with the simultaneous attempt bypass the corps; units from the Kozlovka-Polezheyva direction, using Tiger tanks and self-propelled guns and intensively bombarding our lines from the air.

This last reference was clearly to the actions of the Totenkopf SS Division north of the Psel. I have been there. It is called the Psel River. It looks like a creek. There are pictures of it at Prelestnoye in my book (see pages 241 or 184, depending on which book you have access to).

XVIII Tank Corps encountered the enemy’s well-organized and powerful anti-tank defense, consisting of tanks and assault guns along the line of ht. 217.9-ht. 241.6.

In order to avoid excessive losses in men and equipment, I ordered the corps’ units to take up defensive positions along it new lines.

A certain irony in the last paragraph. Bakharov (XVIII Tank Corps) was relieved of command shortly after the battle, although the XXIX Tank Corps had suffered worse losses.

From: Operational Report #1, 1900, July 12, 1943, 5th GTA

18th TC, with 80th Gds Mortar Rgt, advancing from the line Prelestnoye-Prokhorovka, by 1400 captured Mikhalovka.

At 1400 the corps repulsed an enemy counterattack by 50 tanks from the Bororoditskiye area, and by 13 “Tigers” from the area of ht. 226.6

If the first part of this last sentence in correct, then that would mean there were certainly more tanks than 4 Tigers in the area. Which German tanks were there and where did they come from? The second part of this sentence is clearly an attack by up to 11 Tigers of Totenkopf SS.

The Corps’ further advance was contained by the enemy’s powerful artillery and mortar fire from the Greznoye area, and by tank fire from the Bogoroditskoye area.

Again, tanks in Bogoroditskoye, which is on the Psel, between Andreyevka and Vasilyevka.

From: Operational Report #2, 0700, July 13, 1943, 5th GTA

18th TC, with 80th Gds Mortar Rgt, by the end of July 12 had taken the eastern outskirts of Vasilyevka, but its further advance was halted by the enemy’s artillery and tank from the area of the western outskirts of Vasilyevka. The corps is on the line Petrovka-Mikhalovka and has consolodated and is regrouping.

From: 5th Guards Tank Army’s Combat Activities from July 7-24, 1943 (compiled September 30, 1943)

The initial time of 1000 set for the attack was moved back by the front commander to 0830 on July 12. At 0830, following a short artillery preparation, the corps moved into the attack.

170th and 181st Tank Brigades….and by 1430, after fierce fighting, had taken the Oktyabrskii Sovkhoz and had reached Andreyevka and Vasilyevka, and advance of 6-7 km.

At 1330 the first-echelon brigades were fired on by 13 “Tiger” tanks from the area of ht. 226.6, which were moving in the direction of the northwestern outskirts of Mikhailovka.

This is Totenkopf firing at them. There is only one mention in the Soviet records I have of them engaging any Tigers to their west or south, meaning on their side of the Psel River (it is in the next paragraph). Dr. Wheatley’s account has the Tigers operating from “Hill” 241.6 (grid location 33.3 and 53.6 or four km from SW corner of Vasilyevka at 30-56).

36th Gds Tank Regiment [the Churchills] encountered heavy fire from Tigers and AT guns from the ravines 2 km south of Mikhailovka, where it suffered heavy casualties.

In Andreyevka 181st TBde met a large column of enemy tanks. As a result of the battle that followed, the Germans suffered heavy casualties and were thrown back on Kozlovka.

Now, I put the first part about the “large column” in my book(s). I did not put the second part in, as this is the usual exaggeration of results that appears in this report written by Rotmistrov and Grishin. In their defense, bad results in their actions could have resulted in their arrest. Self-preservation clearly was a factor influencing this account, especially in light of Stalin’s call the evening of 12 July (see pages 1024-1025 or 404-405).

At 1800 on July 12 the corps’ brigade finally took Vasilyevka and reached Kozlovka.

The corps, on the line ht. 279.9-3 km southwest of Kozlovka-ht. 241.6, encountered heavy enemy fire resistance from assault guns, tanks buried in the ground, and fierce aerial bombardment, which made any further advance impossible.

Again, the mention of assault guns (which a lot of sources seem to forget about) and dug-in tanks. Not sure about the dug-in tanks, but both Totenkopf SS and LSSAH Division’s had an assault gun battalion of 10 to 21 StuG IIIs ready for action Armed with a 75mm gun and well armored, these were the second best “tanks” on the battlefield (after the Tigers).

Anyhow, it is clear the XVIII Tank Corps was facing a lot more than just 4 Tigers. The question is, who else was there?

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Christopher A. Lawrence
Christopher A. Lawrence

Christopher A. Lawrence is a professional historian and military analyst. He is the Executive Director and President of The Dupuy Institute, an organization dedicated to scholarly research and objective analysis of historical data related to armed conflict and the resolution of armed conflict. The Dupuy Institute provides independent, historically-based analyses of lessons learned from modern military experience.
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Mr. Lawrence was the program manager for the Ardennes Campaign Simulation Data Base, the Kursk Data Base, the Modern Insurgency Spread Sheets and for a number of other smaller combat data bases. He has participated in casualty estimation studies (including estimates for Bosnia and Iraq) and studies of air campaign modeling, enemy prisoner of war capture rates, medium weight armor, urban warfare, situational awareness, counterinsurgency and other subjects for the U.S. Army, the Defense Department, the Joint Staff and the U.S. Air Force. He has also directed a number of studies related to the military impact of banning antipersonnel mines for the Joint Staff, Los Alamos National Laboratories and the Vietnam Veterans of American Foundation.
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His published works include papers and monographs for the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment and the Vietnam Veterans of American Foundation, in addition to over 40 articles written for limited-distribution newsletters and over 60 analytical reports prepared for the Defense Department. He is the author of Kursk: The Battle of Prokhorovka (Aberdeen Books, Sheridan, CO., 2015), America’s Modern Wars: Understanding Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam (Casemate Publishers, Philadelphia & Oxford, 2015), War by Numbers: Understanding Conventional Combat (Potomac Books, Lincoln, NE., 2017) , The Battle of Prokhorovka (Stackpole Books, Guilford, CT., 2019), The Battle for Kyiv (Frontline Books, Yorkshire, UK, 2023), Aces at Kursk (Air World, Yorkshire, UK, 2024), Hunting Falcon: The Story of WWI German Ace Hans-Joachim Buddecke (Air World, Yorkshire, UK, 2024) and The Siege of Mariupol (Frontline Books, Yorkshire, UK, 2024).
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  1. “established historians like Goeffrey Jukes, Martin Caidin, John Erickson, and Glantz and House”
    Many scholars (and filmmakers) are just an extended arm of the Soviet propaganda machine reaching into the West.

    “Apparently for the last three decades none of the dozens of western historians writing about Prokhorovka had taken the time to do that.”
    I believeformer Gen. Heinrici, Hauck (obviously nobody cared) and Klink did to some extent, later Cross and Nipe.

    “Not sure about the dug-in tanks, but both Totenkopf SS and LSSAH Division’s had an assault gun battalion of 10 to 21 StuG IIIs ready for action Armed with a 75mm gun and well armored, these were the second best “tanks” on the battlefield (after the Tigers)”
    Stugs have a lower combat rating than Panzer IVs, the only real advantage here in this environment being the low profile.
    “He was also very critical of the Soviet Army and the way that they operated. He was independent and analytical, and not overly nationalistic.”
    Did you ask him if the Soviets should leave the territory they annected or that the reason for the discrepancy in the losses lay in the development levels of both belligerents? Did you actually confront him with the accurate figures? Did you tell him that the picture was not different for the entire war and not only tied to Prokhorovka? This is usually the best way to evaluate whether someone is truly independently thinking or not. There is no such thing as an impartial Soviet, there might have been some method in this.

  2. Christopher –

    The 4 LSSAH Tigers were the only German armour in the area of 170th Tank Brigade & 181st Tank Brigades for the initial first attack. It must be remembered that the Tigers did not stop both the 170th & 181st Tank Brigade many Soviet tanks simply sped past the Tigers and went on to the area near the LSSAH artillery positions, some were destroyed there others retraced their steps and returned to their start lines. Tigers often dealt with large numbers of tanks with impunity in 1943 – something which I am sure you know. I can make out at least 14 tank wrecks by following tank tracks to an abrupt end (and explosion or wreck) in just the wedge formation alone of the 170th Tank Brigade in this initial attack (my article figure 28) – this matches the German testimony. Remember between 12- 16 July the whole 18th Tank Corps ‘only’ lost 55 tanks written off – so throughout the day a great many tanks got away. In effect the story of the battle of Prokhorovka for the 18th Tank Corps was one of frustration rather than mass destruction. The majority of the corps lived to fight another day. However, it seems clear from the images that the 170th Tank Brigade suffered the most greatly in this first attack of the day. The only other German unit in the area capable of knocking out Soviet armour was the LSSAH Recon battalion which had at least 6 heavy anti-tank guns.

    The chronology of the battle is vital – the Tigers after dealing with the initial attack were then free to deal with the Soviets 181st second advance from Andreyevka (near the Psel) up towards Hill 241.6 in the late morning. As the Tigers were only ever facing frontal attacks the numbers of Soviet tanks it faced was easily dealt with. The Soviet armoured wrecks in the very large field stretching from Hill 241.6 to Andreyevka could have only been destroyed by German tanks moving down the from the Hill 241.6 (i.e. the Tigers)- the majority of the wrecks are close to the base of the Hill’s slope near Andreyevka beyond the view of Totenkopf’s armour either across the river or any armour that is alleged to have been in the 6th SS Panzer Gren Rgt sector, the majority of the wrecks are facing up the Hill towards the LSSAH Tigers firing positions. There is no ambiguity over the LSSAH Tigers operations on the 12th. The immobilised/lost Tiger could only have been lost in this 2nd action of the day as otherwise it would have been recoverable on the 12th – it was stuck in the no-man’s land of the slope between 241.6 and Andreyevka.

    The LSSAH units you speculatively mentioned were not in the area. We know where each LSSAH armoured unit was located on the 12th. Marder Pz jager units were engaging the 25th Tank Brigade on the other side of the railway embankment, the LSSAH StuG battalion was being held in reserve in this area as well. 6th panzer company went to Hill 252.2, the other two Pz IV company’s were behind the anti-tank ditch. Quite simply there were no other German armoured units available other than the 4 Tigers to protect the left flank of the LSSAH against the 18th Tank Corps first attack or later advance up from the Psel to Hill 241.6.

    Part of the Totenkopf StuG battalion was south of the river but this at best could only engage the last attack of the 18th Tank Corps on Vasilyevka when the soviet’s entered the sector. The ribbon villages were much more urbanised in 1943 and there was a long line of houses (which the Soviets held) opposite the 6th SS Panzer Gren Rgt which again shielded the base of the slope of Hill 241.6. Zamulin states Totenkopf left a battery of 10 StuGs south of the river along with a company of Panzers (no reference for this is offered). The most likely course of events is that any Soviet armour that reached Vasilyevka was ambushed by anti-tank fire of 6th SS Panzer Gren Rgt.

    There was no missing LSSAH battalion (1st battalion was in Germany outfitting with Panthers – apologies for a feel sure you know this ), while if you mean a fourth pz company in the LSSAH II panzer battalion this was temporarily disbanded when the number of operational Pz IVs declined during Citadel.
    The Totenkopf Tigers largest impact was to disrupted the 110th Tank Brigade advance to the front line in the early afternoon – the Tigers field of fire was also obstructed to the 181st Tank Brigade in the LSSAH Tigers sector, while its tanks could also not engage the attack towards Totenkopf’s 6th SS Panzer Gren Rgt in Vasilyevka for the same reason. Again the area was much more urbanised in 1943 as compared to today.

    Obviously in this battle more than any other there are problems basing views on soviet quotes such as ‘a large armoured column’. However, if we do then it is clear Bakharov did not forcefully pursue this later attack at Vasilyevka ‘ In order to avoid excessive losses in men and equipment, I ordered the corps’ units to take up defensive positions along it new lines’. – Therefore losses would have been minimal, meaning the majority of 18th Tank Corps losses must have already occurred vs the LSSAH Tigers – the battlefield images show this to be the case.

    Clearly the Pz IV was superior to the StuG.

  3. Dr. Wheatley,

    Thanks for the comments. I will address them at some point over the next couple of weeks. For next week I have two blog posts I am drafting “Who all was facing the XVIII Tank Corps” and “08:30 or 10:00 at Prokhorovka.” The last one addresses one of your previous comments.

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